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Salvaged porch columns!

Postby pqtex on Sat May 05, 2012 5:07 pm

We found salvaged columns for my front porch!!!!!

The original white porch columns were removed from my 1913 house during a 1950's renovation. I don't have many photos of the original porch, but I have enough to know how it looked. During a road trip this past week, we visited Cunningham Lumber Company in Hillsboro, Texas. I found six columns from an 1890's house in Waco, Texas that had been deconstructed a few months ago. We aren't sure yet whether they are old growth yellow pine, or cypress (have lots of paint to remove), but I'm happy either way! They are solid, they are real wood, and they are in fantastic shape (no rot!). They are the same size/style as the originals, except we'll have to shorten them a bit. The curve of the column is so slight, that it will not mess up the proportions. I even found the newspaper article about the home they came from, so I have been able to glean a little of the history of the house. It's sad the house was taken down, because it looked to be in good shape, but I'm giving these columns a good home.

On top of all of that...we were able to purchase the columns for $80 each. :mrgreen: The original porch had four columns, but we are putting up six for better support of a large roof.
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This is how the house looked in 1944.
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This is how it looked just before we removed the rusting iron posts that were
installed in the 1950's. The asbestos siding will eventually be removed to reveal the original clapboard.
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Here are the six columns leaning against the house. I wish I could have bought the rest of them for possible future projects.
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby cadrad on Sat May 05, 2012 9:21 pm

congrats! what a great find! As you said, its a shame the original house was taken down, but at least the parts will live on. Make sure to use those iron thingies underneath the bases of the columns to prevent them from wicking up moisture!
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby pqtex on Sat May 05, 2012 9:28 pm

cadrad wrote:congrats! what a great find! As you said, its a shame the original house was taken down, but at least the parts will live on. Make sure to use those iron thingies underneath the bases of the columns to prevent them from wicking up moisture!



There was a previous thread, maybe a few months ago, where those were mentioned. I've been trying to find the topic without success. What are those things called?
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby CountryGirl on Sat May 05, 2012 9:49 pm

pqtex, I am so happy for you. I do remember you talking about the columns before and now
you have them. Great Score! :D

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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby KathyJB on Sat May 05, 2012 11:34 pm

I wish I knew what those thingies were called......

Glad you are getting your columns.
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby Sombreuil_Mongrel on Sun May 06, 2012 11:20 am

I don't think "Iron thingies" go under classical columns. You will need a column base made to fit the diameter of the column, and these are not cheap. The only classical column style that didn't have a base was the Doric order (like the Parthenon; very massive/overscale columns)
The way we deal with weathering/water issues with wood columns today is to use a fiberglass base (with a lumber core) or a cast aluminum base to keep the wood up and off the floor.
Wood bases can be used, and column manufacturers will provide custom aluminum risers so wood doesn't sit flat on wood or masonry decks.
$80/ea is phenomenal!
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby pqtex on Sun May 06, 2012 12:39 pm

Sombreuil_Mongrel wrote:The way we deal with weathering/water issues with wood columns today is to use a fiberglass base (with a lumber core) or a cast aluminum base to keep the wood up and off the floor.
Wood bases can be used, and column manufacturers will provide custom aluminum risers so wood doesn't sit flat on wood or masonry decks.
$80/ea is phenomenal!

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When I found this picture of the metal base on the 'net, I figured it might be what I was looking for. It has a round cut-out in the center of the metal base for drainage.
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We will probably be able to re-use most of the capitals and bases that came with the columns. Some are damaged, but not rotted. They can possibly be repaired or patched. The only question will be how much the shortening of the columns will affect the proportion/sizing of the bases and capitals.

Now I have to search previous threads and refresh my memory about the proper prep/primer/paint to use. I can't wait to get started. The sooner I get these ready, the sooner my husband can start installing them!

I'm still doing a happy dance. :D
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby pqtex on Sun May 06, 2012 3:30 pm

The funny thing about columns and moisture is that my parents' porch has turned posts that they salvaged from a house being torn down. They are mounted directly onto a concrete and brick porch with a piece of roof shingle underneath. There is no rot whatsover. Whenever I mention that method to other people, I get eye rolls and pooh-poohs about how it won't work and the wood will rot. I don't know how old those columns are, but they've been on that porch for about 58 years, and I don't know how many more years they had on them when they came off the other house and were thrown out at the curb.
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby steponmebbbboom on Sun May 06, 2012 9:29 pm

that method may have worked because of the temperate climate you live in. such methods would not work further north where freezethaw cycles and rain in the PNW would be a lot harder on columns mounted directly on the floor.
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Re: Salvaged porch columns!

Postby cadrad on Mon May 07, 2012 7:40 am

ok- so "custom aluminum (or iron) riser". I think my meaning was clear, even if my terminology was not. I meant something to keep the base of the column from resting directly on the floor for air circulation and to prevent rot. I guess that since the photo clearly shows either bases or capitols or raw wood at the top and bottom of the shaft, I just assumed there were bases capitals.
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